Dr. Albert Mohler Meets Again with the Cult of the Sun and Moon People (Mormons)
Brigham Young co-founder of the Mormon Cult once said, “Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening called the moon? …when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant of their fellows. So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain,” (Mormon – Journal of Discourses – quote more fully provided at end of article with source).
In a new evangelical outreach a number of prominent Christian leaders are meeting with the cult of the Sun and Moon People at Brigham Young University (BYU). At the personal invitation of the Sun and Moon People leader several Evangelical Christian leaders have graciously accepted over the past year. Due to the popularity of these interfaith meetings at the Sun and Moon People’s University (BYU), it was held where more students could attend and at least one of the Sun and Moon People’s general authorities were present on stage so the student body could know it has the full endorsement of their leadership. This past week the latest evangelical leader to speak again to the cult was Dr. Albert Mohler on February 25th, 2014, addressing what he sees as a common threat posed to our religious freedoms saying to the effect, despite whatever differences we have in doctrine and religious belief we urgently need to talk in the evil day we live. Opening up Dr. Mohler described the privilege it was to spend time with the General Authorities that run the cult counting them as friends,
“I also had the privilege of spending time with some of the General Authorities of your church, including Elder Tom Perry, Elder Quentin Cook, Elder Dallin Oaks, and several others. I am glad to know these men as friends.”
And Dr. Mohler said this which troubles me,
“We need to talk. We can and must take the risk of responsible, respectful, and honest conversation. We owe this to each other, and we owe this to the faiths we represent. And we had better talk with candor and urgency, for the times demand it.”
Dr. Mohler qualified his message stating how very different what an Evangelical Christian believes compared to the beliefs of a Sun and Moon cult member (similar to what he did this past October 2013). Dr. Mohler said, “I come to honor the importance of ideas and the centrality of the search for truth with you.” Previously Dr. Mohler said in October 2013,
“I love and respect you as friends, and as friends we would speak only what we believe to be true, especially on matters of eternal significance. We inhabit separate and irreconcilable theological worlds, made clear with respect to the doctrine of the Trinity. And yet here I am, and gladly so. We will speak to one another of what we most sincerely believe to be true, precisely because we love and respect one another.”
“Irreconcilable”, “not going to heaven together,” means the other is condemned to Hell right!? And “speaking only what we believe to be true”, is he willing to speak with every other religious group out there as well saying we need to talk because the times demand it? Do we need to go to other cult academic locations even though they are spiritual enemies of the true Cross of Christ? Will he or others go to the Jehovah’s Witnesses next and do the same thing in their alleged search for the truth!? Does the Sun and Moon people cult (Mormon) really hold the same values, the same morality we hold up as the natural family? No. On the surface it may appear we agree but in the most fundamental ways our God is different than the Mormon god. Our views differ on husband, wife and children plus quickly deviate in every possible regard to what Heaven is – unless you are planning to propagate children on other worlds as new little gods! Our doctrine, our Christian teachings call what the Mormons teach accursed – how can we say less!?For plenty more of what the Mormons teach I recommend this ministry’s material, Mormon Research Ministry - They are truly one on the front-line in this spiritual war! How can we say we need to talk, except to say I have heard what you have taught and it is patently false, as false as non-traditional marriage, it is a fraud of what is Holy, what is pure based upon solely the Word of God our Creator. You need to repent! But Dr. Mohler said,
“Your faith has held high the importance of marriage and family. Your theology requires such an affirmation, and it is lovingly lived out by millions of Mormon families. That is why I and my evangelical brothers and sisters are so glad to have Mormon neighbors. We stand together for the natural family, for natural marriage, for the integrity of sexuality within marriage alone, and for the hope of human flourishing.”
Nothing makes the Mormon family above reproach Dr. Mohler and in fact the Mormon cult very carefully trains the Mormon disciple in every aspect of their doctrine but you know this and it in part why I am not mincing my open condemnation of your actions. Ok, for the sake of argument say a Mormon makes a fine American neighbor. As a military veteran I know what evils are in the world and I know if I had to defend my family, home, and liberty a Mormon would be a fierce ally in spite of our fundamental differences – but that is based on the religious liberty we have given us in the constitution of this great country we live. As a Christian first, I do not dare wrap myself in the flag in some kind of nationalistic pride that I see Dr. Mohler doing to rationalize to join with the Mormons! God first, and family second – we trust in God to work these things out. We have no intellectual rational that we can use to join as friends with those the Bible calls accursed, why do I state this so emphatically you ask? If you believe the Bible is God’s word and the meaning of the word “accursed” in the Greek you need to consider this: Strongs concordance for accursed: “331 ἀνάθεμα anathema an-ath’-em-ah is the strongest condemnation a person can have. “… A thing devoted to God without hope of being redeemed… therefore a person or thing doomed to destruction 2a) a curse 2b) a man accursed, devoted to the direst of woes”
Galatians 1:6-12 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
Following the scriptures above, Mormonism preaches another gospel which is not another, they trouble fellow believers with their own missions, they pervert the gospel of Christ, the Mormon claim is their gospel message came by way of an angel called Moroni. The Mormon gospel came after man by way of Joseph Smith, and co-founder Brigham Young but the Christian Gospel came directly by the revelation of Jesus Christ! Our business with the Mormons is clear, if we love them we pray for them never backing away from telling the hard truths and when one repents then we rejoice! If we are preaching the Gospel it is our Christian duty to follow through with the delivery of the whole Gospel which also includes,
Luke 9:5 “And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.”
Luke 10:10-16 “But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, 11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. 12 But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city. 13 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you. 15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell. 16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.” Matthew 10:14-16 “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” Mark 6:11-12 “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.”
According to the Bible, there is a fundamental principle dealing with those who have refused the Gospel of Jesus Christ. No matter how friendly they appear, no matter if you think they make great neighbors, no matter if in your estimation they hold to traditional marriage and family or that we share this country with the religious freedoms imparted to us that you feel are being threatened – it is the crystal clear message of the Bible warning when you depart those who refuse the Gospel and yes it is a very hard and very public statement,
Luke 10:10-11 “But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, 11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.”
We as Bible believing Christians have no liberty or license to go and seek some common ground and seek to stand together with the likes of Mormons or any other false religion or cult – because they have openly refused to listen and believe the Gospel. We continue telling them the truth of the cross of Christ and openly denounce their gospel of the men Joseph Smith and Brigham Young as the fraud it is less we cause others to fall especially new or unlearned Christians, we MUST explain the differences! Their god is not God! Their Jesus is NOT our Jesus – to do less we have not loved the Mormon, we have actually hated their eternal soul helping them on to the way to Hell and damnation that is truly the issue of eternal significance!!!
The Bible not Dr. Albert Mohler has the last word in this matter! Taking a stand for our rights in this country is one thing but we have as much in common Mormons as a man on the Moon!
While the Mormons (Sun and Moon people cult) stands apart from traditional Christianity, not believing in the same God the Father, Jesus Christ the Only Son of God, and Holy Spirit or that He is One Triune God, they also believe the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden was a good thing, and much, much more. The Mormon worldview is completely different from Christianity and even reality! While Dr. Mohler may have prayed in earnest then believed and intellectually rationalized it would be a good thing to accept this invitation he was dead wrong. Many of the very things he commended the Mormon on such as the devotion to traditional family and marriage are absurdities! Mormons teach that marriage is ETERNAL but the Bible makes it clear that is untrue. The Mormons teach that family is ETERNAL if the marriage was sealed with their temple rites but the Bible teaches no such thing. The list of differences between us is so extensive there are books to cover them! To put it directly as Dr. Albert Mohler said in the past,
In other words, Mormonism rejects traditional Christian orthodoxy at the onset- this rejection is the very logic of Mormonism’s existence. A contemporary observer of Mormon public relations is not going to hear this logic presented directly, but it is the very logic and message of the Book of Mormon and the structure of Mormon thought. Mormonism rejects Christian orthodoxy as the very argument for its own existence, and it clearly identifies historic Christianity as a false faith. http://www.christianity.com/christian-life/political-and-social-issues/mormonism-is-not-christianity-11628184.html
If Dr. Mohler still believes this then why you ask is he participating in these interfaith meetings? My belief is, Dr. Mohler has fallen into a trap that even this writer can relate too – PRIDE in intellect! While seeking to win these lost cult members he has accepted their invitation on a good moral cause but is unwittingly duped into what others like him Dr. Land, Dr. Wood and Dr. Zacharias have done. Their commendations to the Mormon fails to include what the Apostle Paul would have said next – their CONDEMNATION for perverting the Gospel Galatians 1:6-9. The Sun and Moon cult is the Mormon cult I opened with words straight from one of Mormon’s master deceivers Brigham Young and now in my opinion we have someone dubbed as one of today’s greatest Evangelical Christian intellectuals Dr. Albert Mohler standing as a pawn of the ever manipulative Mormon cult. My belief is Dr. Mohler is being played the fool on a fool’s errand, not giving a clear Gospel message but one that is sure to be used by the cult, by these men and women masquerading as God’s people when they are not! The Bible shows Dr. Mohler to be in complicity by associating with them, by being continual friends with them - it is inexcusable and needs open condemnation by all who hold the Bible to be true. We can rationalize ourselves into an intellectual corner against a wall and that is where I see Dr. Albert Mohler today, I have told him I am praying for him and indeed I am, there is nothing our true God cannot do including a reset of his position with Mormons (Sun and Moon People cult) that I have said previously is an egregious error and that belief stands.
2 John 1:10-11 “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.”
The above verse is one of the basics a young Christian learns if he/she is properly discipled and how to recognize the liars coming to our doors! The Apostle Paul pled with the Corinthians and I use to plead with Dr. Mohler or any who would defend him,
2 Corinthians 11:1-19 [bold emphasis mine] 1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. 6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things. 7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely? 8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service. 9 And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself. 10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia. 11 Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth. 12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 16 I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. 17 That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also. 19 For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.
Below I close with a quote from Mormon co-founder Brigham Young more fully (link included and it can be verified on the Mormon websites for their Journal of Discourses). It is one of many examples of the aberrant teachings of Mormonism usually swept under the carpet but none the less it is one of their many teachings of a completely different view of reality – literally a man-made fantasy! Again it begs the question why would any Bible Believing Christian accept a call to speak at a Mormon run interfaith meeting? Whether you are looking at it that way or not Dr. Mohler – that is how the Mormon sees it. As promised here is an excellent article documenting the Mormon leadership history on this ludicrous topic: http://www.mrm.org/moon-men Brigham Young said, [bold emphasis mine to focus on the sun, moon people and ‘wives’ too]
I will tell you who the real fanatics are: they are they who adopt false principles and ideas as facts, and try to establish a superstructure upon a false foundation. They are the fanatics; and however ardent and zealous they may be, they may reason or argue on false premises till doomsday, and the result will be false. If our religion is of this character we want to know it; we would like to find a philosopher who can prove it to us. We are called ignorant; so we are: but what of it? Are not all ignorant? I rather think so. Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon? When we view its face we may see what is termed “the man in the moon,” and what some philosophers declare are the shadows of mountains. But these sayings are very vague, and amount to nothing; and when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fellows. So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain. It was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets; and so will this earth when it is celestialized. Every planet in its first rude, organic state receives not the glory of God upon it, but is opaque; but when celestialized, every planet that God brings into existence is a body of light, but not till then. Christ is the light of this planet. God gives light to our eyes. Did you ever think who gave you the power of seeing? Who organized these little globules in our heads, and formed the nerves running to the brain, and gave us the power of distinguishing a circle from a square, an upright from a level, large from small, white from black, brown from gray, and so on? Did you acquire this faculty by your own power? Did any of you impart this power to me or I to you? Not at all. Then where did we get it from? From a superior Being. When I think of these few little things with regard to the organization of the earth and the people of the earth, how curious and how singular it is! And yet how harmonious and beautiful are Nature’s laws! And the work of God goes forward, and who can hinder it, or who can stay His hand now that He has commenced His kingdom?
This brings us right back to this Gospel. God has commenced His kingdom on the earth. How intricate it is, and how difficult for a man to understand if he be not enlightened by the Spirit of God! How can we understand it? O, we have nothing to do but to humble ourselves and get the spirit of the Lord by being born of the water and of the Spirit; then we can enter into it. How is it if we are not born of the Spirit? Can the natural man behold the things of God? He cannot, for they are discerned spiritually—by the Spirit of the Almighty, and if we have not this Spirit within us we cannot understand the things of God. But the most simple thing in the world to understand is the work of the Lord. What shall we do? Divest ourselves of great, big “Mr. I.” Let him fall at the feet of good sound reason. What next? Humble ourselves before the Lord and receive the truth as He has revealed it, then we will be born of the Spirit. Then if we wish further blessings, be born of the water; then, if we wish further blessings, receive the laying on of hands for the reception of the Holy Ghost; and if we wish still further blessings, live by every word that proceeds out of His mouth, that is spoken from the heavens, then things will be brought to our remembrance by the Comforter that Jesus promised his disciples, which should show them things past, present, and to come.
This is the Gospel as we believe it. Is there any harm in it? Not the least in the world. Should we not obey it? We should. Should we not obey the requirements of Heaven? Certainly we should. Would it be the least injurious to the human family to receive the Gospel of the Son of God, and to have the man Christ Jesus to rule over them? Not at all; but, on the contrary, it would fill them with peace, joy, love, kindness, and intelligence. Would the principles of the Gospel, if obeyed, teach us to control ourselves? They would. They will teach men and women to govern and control their own passions. You very frequently hear it said, “Such a man or woman has too much temper.” This is a mistaken idea. No person on earth has too much of this article. But do we not frequently see the evil conduct of people through allowing their passions and tempers to have full control of them? Certainly we do. What is the difficulty? We want the spirit, knowledge, power and principle within us to govern and control our tempers; there is no danger of having too much if we will only control them by the Spirit of the Almighty. Every intelligent being on the earth is tempered for glory, beauty, excellency and knowledge here, and for immortality and eternal lives in the worlds to come. But every being who attains to this must be sanctified before God and be completely under the control of His Spirit. If I am thus controlled by the Spirit of the Most High I am a king, I am supreme so far as the control of self is concerned; and it also enables me to control my wives and children. And when they thus see that I am under the government and control of the Good Spirit, they will be perfectly submissive to my dictates. They feel and say, “Yes, father, or husband, certainly, you never require anything that is wrong; I have learned that long ago. Your judgment and discretion and the power of thought and reflection in you are sufficient; you know what is right.” And if I could extend this power I could reign supreme, not only over my family and friends, but also over my neighbors and the people all around me. Could the spirit of error, hatred and wickedness perform this? No, it can be accomplished only by means of the meek and humble spirit of the Lord Jesus. If an individual is filled with that, it makes him a perfect monarch over himself, and it will give him influence…”
In a related query to Mormon Research Ministry who are fighting the good fight in Utah,
Thanks for sharing your concerns. While I have utmost respect for the men you mention below, I too wonder if their appearance at Mormon venues is actually helping or hindering evangelism efforts. Thirty five + years of dealing with Mormonism tells me the LDS Church does nothing unless it’s agenda can be furthered. As far as I understand, the topics they have discussed have been more about religious freedom, etc., and not doctrinal truth; so this, I think, explains why we probably can’t expect anything to be said that will cause a Mormon to seriously reconsider their Mormonism. If I was asked who benefits most from these meetings I would have to say the Mormons, hands down. If they didn’t, the Mormons wouldn’t do it. I wish men of their caliber would sit down with those us who labor everyday in Utah, but so far, that has not happened.
I hope this helps.
Related Articles Here from Truth with Snares and Apprising Ministries:
November 4, 2013 (Satire of Mormon Leadership) In the “Fairmontism” Board Meeting November 2nd, 2013 – Interfaith Strategy?
November 1, 2013 Southern Baptist Seminary President Speaks To Mormons About Joining Forces Against Secularism
September 29, 2013 National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) Or “National Association of Neo-Evangelicals”?
The Simplicity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ – A Message for the 21st Century Christian and Non-Christian
Today with the blitz of technology from every direction through television, computer, smartphone and even in the near future Google Glass it is enough to overwhelm the senses of every man woman and child who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Technology provides tools to help us better live our lives but when is it too much? For the Christian, does it help us with life issues or are we really letting someone do the thinking for us?
Many Churches who lay claim to the teachings of Jesus Christ have adapted or even embraced technology with all of its complexity for better or worse. In an effort to make their presentations cool and hip for the younger crowd, they may fail to recognize the inherent dangers of copying what the world does and how our world goes. Churches or ones so-called are taking in more than the technology but the world’s teachings, turning a church into impersonal video screen campus gatherings and a virtual hotbed for who I see as money making scheming false teachers. Adding to the danger the darker side of technology is the information overload and it can be an incessant distraction to what is real, what is really important. I fear we are losing our youth in a tsunami of information, and we are at real risk of our children being swept away! Many children and adults have lost their way – and left their first love Jesus Christ as result!
Reader, I write you as one who has been only a technology user his whole life, a geek from childhood growing up with this technological revolution, and if not for a God who sought me out I would be forever lost! My warning, my call to you is this – Stop! Look! You have strayed from the narrow path, the one that leads to Heaven! If you are in Christ you know what I am saying, but if you are not I assure you I am no fool on a fool’s errand. Please hear me out!
We have lost something dear Christian! And to you that do not know Jesus, let me tell you. I plead for a minute of your time! The simplicity, the true path of Jesus Christ! STOP! LOOK and LISTEN! Break away from ALL techie distractions! I will try by God’s grace to reach you, but I can do nothing without prayer. It is by God not of me. I do not ask for your money, only your time – that is true religion, true ministry! It is your SOUL, your VERY BEING that I am reaching out from heart to heart, without ANY thought to who you are because the ONE I serve did the SAME for me!
Do I have your attention!? Is your mind now focused on what I am saying?
There are many ways I can say what I am going to say, but in the end there is only one way, one path and I promise it is simple, straight up and to the point – it can and will change your life but you decide.
Science Fiction OR Science of Fiction?
The 1997 science fiction movie Contact gives some intellectual and philosophical quips that point out just how very small our planet Earth really is. Yes, attempting to show we are not alone in this large universe of millions of galaxies each made up of billions of stars of what appears to be of infinite size is nothing new for science fiction. In Contact, the comment made by actress Jodie Foster posing as an astrophysicist doctor Ellie Arroway stated at one point,
“So what’s more likely? That an all-powerful, mysterious God created the Universe, and decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that He simply doesn’t exist at all, and that we created Him, so that we wouldn’t have to feel so small and alone?”
“You know, there are four hundred billion stars out there, just in our galaxy alone. If only one out of a million of those had planets, and just of out of a million of those had life, and just one out of a million of those had intelligent life; there would be literally millions of civilizations out there.” Actor Matthew McConaughey playing a so called emergent Pastor Palmer Joss responded: [looking at the night sky] Well, if there wasn’t, it’ll be an awful waste of space.
This is not an endorsement of Contact, but me, addressing some interesting points the movie makes about our perception of the universe we live. Sadly, Contact leaves you with empty open-ended answers as to where we put our faith about the universe and even questions if that answer is true or false.
A Christian believes God made the universe and everything therein. The non-Christian for the sake of debate, as in the movie Contact presents an opposing view denying God, and posits everything evolving over billions of years. But perhaps, just perhaps, we are not alone in this universe.
I present this question to any non-believer: Perhaps if you thought for a minute that there is as the movie Contact as stated, “…an all-powerful, mysterious God created the universe…” and he did decide to give proof of his existence, what ways might he have communicated to us? Obviously not by our 21st century inventions but what way if there is a God out there who made it all including you and me – what would he have done?
Look up at the night sky, look down into a microscope, look at life itself and the planet on which you exist. You are alive, you can read or listen and you can communicate numerous ways through speech, written language and even through nonverbal actions. You are not a rock in the backyard or an unreasoning animal, you can think. So how might have God communicated with His creation?
Think about the cliché “can’t see the forest for the trees.” Since you can reason, and if you do so objectively, the honest answer is God could be communicating truth to us through creation itself. We do not grasp the enormity of the universe, and almost every day more discoveries are being made of the beauty of it. We cannot take a full view of it–there’s no full screen mode you can switch to like a computer. It is only from our view, from a planet which we know is just one tiny infinitesimal clip like a computer screen at a moment in time. We are extremely limited by our perception of everything around us. This is only part of the reason why I believe the evidence is clear, there is too much to say this existence is by chance, the probabilities are off the charts! To deny there is a God out there is to deny what is staring you in the face.
Please consider this, what’s the point of creating it if not to share it? If what I am saying is true consider how intricate, complex, beautiful and infinite the universe is. Look at yourself, how you are put together (even though these bodies will one day fail us) what’s the point of living if there is nothing more to life?
The answer is simple. God had a plan for everything from the beginning, before recorded history! He made it all unique. He communicated true love by creating us in His image! We are all created equal before Him, but now is the time to wake up. We can take nothing with us when we die. We come into these bodies at birth then one day we’ll die, leaving this world behind, whether you are rich or poor, and no matter who you are. So is there a possibility of life on these other planets our science is alleging to have discovered or is it more likely since there is no empirical evidence to prove otherwise?
Now I posit, God the one who made it all, including you and me actually cared for and loved His creation – how might He let us know? The Bible among other books out in the world claim to have the answer but the Bible stands apart from other religions and remarkably can be shown to be geologically, and historically accurate stretching back over thousands of years. No other book or written work compares with an account of creation and actually lifts up the concept that there REALLY is a God out there who cares for each of us and that He DID communicate and CONTINUES to communicate with us today through the written Words of the Bible and the gift of His only Son Jesus Christ.
The Bible introduces us to God, our maker who is three in one; God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. The Bible gives the whole plan for His creation, and something else I promised to reveal earlier, it is something we cannot do for ourselves – salvation from death and a place called Hell! Many churches have forgotten the way of the Bible thinking they can do God a favor with their own ideas of how to please Him. There is only one way, John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Through Jesus alone is the way to God, there is no other way – Why, you ask, can there not be another way?
Look at your technology for example. If you put only one password on a device, how far will you get entering the wrong password unless you change it? Take that further, I give you the password but you still enter something else – where did that get you? Simplicity is at the heart of the Gospel of Jesus Christ because God wanted none to perish but come unto eternal life with Him! God the creator of the universe GAVE us the way, in essence, He gave each of us the password but many deny it even when we know it to be true. So many want to do things their way and live in their sin and misery then die and face an eternal horror called Hell – when God’s way offers so much, including immeasurable things that only you can experience in peace and joy making you whole, fulfilling your life’s purpose with great and fantastic hope and faith of a bright future with God himself!
For me knowing God through my Savior Jesus Christ goes beyond the words I read, the assurance of my salvation overrides my emotions – that knowledge empowers my very being which furthers my joy of life in Him! Words can only begin to express how great a salvation God gave the believer of Jesus Christ His Son! Put that in perspective of where your faith lives, how very, very, very small we really are in this moment in time and space – that the Creator God of THE UNIVERSE has reached out His hand by way of His only Son to you! Yes, even you! How can you say no!?
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Until recent days I never heard of a Lingering Conference nor did I realize the school associated to Dr. John MacArthur will have a booth at it. So I read and watched this article from Pastor Ken Silva.
“Then, the LC Vision Statement sounds much like IHOP itself as anyone who’s been involved with it can tell you. Lots of contemplative jargon like, ” ‘Lingering’ in the presence,” “transformed in the presence,” and “hunger for the presence,” in the same vein as apostate mystics like “Brother” Lawrence and Madame Guyon:
The vision and purpose of the Linger Conference is to impart the fundamental importance of remaining or “Lingering” in the presence of the King. Our attention span as a culture, even for spiritual matters, is measured in seconds and minutes rather than hours and days.
This conference offers the opportunity to be transformed in the presence of God by lingering in worship, prayer, meditation on scripture, and reﬂection. We hope to draw the attendance of lay people in addition to church staff and provide a conference environment where believers can linger in the presence of the Lord.
We pray that this conference will spark a hunger for the presence of God and a lifelong pursuit of beholding His Glory. (source)”
I wonder if anyone is picking up on that music that grows into a chant practically? I came out of the charismatic movement quickly as a young Christian *all I saw were the abuses of alleged gifts* and I FAST remembered the worship music there at an AOG church in Japan. How it was like shifting the gears of a car winding it out in 3rd then letting it rip into 4th. I had all sorts of tongues going on around me, one woman walking at first yelling Jesus, Jesus, Jesus with tears streaming and a couple more getting into it throwing themselves down on the front altar of the church. Then it got weirder as one jumped backwards slamming her head on the pew (hard wood) then getting right back up and back into the frenzy. This was my last service, I felt like an outsider because I was unaffected observing what I saw as total lunacy!
The music played on the IHOP clip from Apprising brought those memories from some 33 years back to flood into my mind! I do recall them from time to time but it was almost hypnotic, perhaps it was? This stuff takes it all to the next level into the babbling that some dare to call tongues and they are filled with some sort of spirit but I see nothing in scripture except for a demoniac that comes close!
I do not believe music is neutral and these people are leading with their music drawing youth away to something that seems energized and exciting – missing the real power of worship, of praise and prayer to the One True God! I really pray Dr. John MacArthur comes to his senses if he has heard about this lingering conference!
I pray none of us are deceived for a second about how dangerous this stuff is. Time to immerse more into God’s Pure, Holy and Perfect Word.
This is what I walk away from tonight after considering this and other professing Evangelicals befriending Mormons too — YUCK!
So many are enamored with the baby Jesus this time of year and yes it was important Jesus had to come first but Christmas is not a holy day appointed by God nor are we called to remember it in worship. While I know all the festivities of this day will go on unabated we dare not forget any day God’s greatest and unspeakably wondrous gift of His only Son Jesus Christ!
When the joy of Christmas day dies away, will you know the joy that surpasses understanding with the peace and contentment that can only come from knowing Jesus as Savior? Here is another acrostic from my wife on this topic I believed was a very fitting witness to many who will forget themselves in the trappings of the day. From her poetic work called, Truth in Acrostics
JESUS – The greatest gift mankind was given is salvation from his sin so he could spend eternity in Heaven with his Creator. In order for that to happen, God sent his Son to bear our sin on the cross, giving us the choice to accept his gift or reject it. In Matthew 13 below, Jesus’ countrymen were offended that Jesus spoke with authority because they did not, or would not see who he really was. Jesus’ answer to that was basically, a prophet is known and accepted with honor by everyone except his own people because of their unbelief. His final answer is in Luke.
Matthew 1:21 “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 13:57-58 “And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
Luke 12:9 “But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.”
Jesus was born and died
Especially for our sake.
Scorned, though guiltless, and tried;
Unwilling to put our lives at stake.
Savior to all, yet by his own denied.
© Copyright 2013 Kathy Beardsley
Being the imperfect humans we are we tend to cling to our own version of the truth or accept alleged truth simply because it already aligns with what we want to hear. Rather than accept the truth that sometimes can be hard to handle because it goes against the main stream of tradition, we go into preservation mode and hold on tightly to our pride or self-image. After all, that’s more important, right?
As truth demands accuracy to remain truth; so God’s Word demands accuracy because it is THE truth.
Anything that concerns God’s Word can never just be “good enough.” It must always be as close to correct as possible when quoting, teaching, or conveying it. When we find ourselves excusing error with “yeah, but” or “it’s not that big of a deal” or worse “wasn’t that good?” when blatant error is mockingly waving its red flags in our face, something is very wrong! It is far too serious a matter to be so nonchalant about the inaccuracies being taught or represented out of ignorance when souls are on the line. We need to live our lives with the truth according to scripture, and not according to what makes us happy.
The “Christmas Story” i.e. Jesus’ birth as is traditionally taught every year. To say Jesus’ birth was the first Christmas is as wrong as it can be.
- His birth was not a holiday, and it was not celebrated annually by anyone until the Roman Catholics made it so.
- One angel appeared only to the shepherds with the glory of the Lord shining round about them to which they reacted with fear Luke 2:9, but were quickly calmed and given the joyous news of Jesus’ birth. That is when the one angel was joined by a multitude of the heavenly host who praised God then the angel and the host returned to heaven Luke 2:15.
- The nativity incorporates the whole story in one scene when it actually happens over a span of at least two years. The wise men were not there with the shepherds; they arrived when Jesus was a toddler. We know this because Jesus is called a babe with the shepherds, and a young child with the wise men. Also, Herod calls for the death of all the children two years old and under.
- The scriptures do not say how many wise men there were; it is presented as three because of the “gold, frankincense, and myrrh.”
- Many of the Christmas songs are penned by Roman Catholic Priests. The problem with this is the error of Roman Catholic beliefs being introduced, and for the most part, unwittingly accepted through their pretty and even festive music. Poetic license, some would say, is allowed and should be considered harmless. That means any Tom, Dick, or Harry can write something completely unbiblical, arrange it to ear catching music, put a Christian label on it and call it good. Not if it is scripturally incorrect! Wait, isn’t that what CCM does? What’s the difference? Some people don’t buy CCM based on the lifestyle and or message of the writer not to mention the error introduced into the music. Why are Christmas songs allowed a pass?
Ultimately, it is correct to say there was rejoicing at the birth of the Messiah, and there is no wrong in remembering it often (in conjunction with the rest of the history).
It would be correct to observe the Lord’s Supper on a regular schedule if one desires to do so because that is the personal request from Jesus in 1 Cor. 11:24-26; “This do in remembrance of me.” The focus was on salvation because of his sacrifice through his death, burial, and resurrection. He is not asking us to remember his birth; we choose to do that, and look what surrounds it. In comparison, more emphasis is placed on a tree, gifts, food, parties, and so on. All these things become the center, and bulk of the holiday. What very small role does Jesus’ birth (what Christmas is supposed to be all about) really have in the celebrating; a token reading of his birth in the morning, and maybe a prayer – fifteen minutes, thirty tops?
What is our demeanor when remembering Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection? It is all about Him, and not about us! A humble and prayerful heart turns attention away from itself.
The gospel of Jesus Christ, by the way, did not begin at his birth; it began with John the Baptist’s announcement of Him. Mark 1:1-3 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Celebrate this festive holiday as you would Valentine’s Day; a generic goodwill holiday in which you can show the love of Christ to others, and seize the opportunity when it arises to share the gospel. This is something that should be done regardless of the season or holiday. Let’s keep things correct – stop proclaiming this holiday as Christian, and wrongly using our Savior’s birth to justify it.
From “Truth in Acrostics” – (A poetic work in development)
LIBERTY – As Christians, we have liberty to enjoy things this world has to offer, but only if it does not compromise or stand in opposition to God’s principles. These things may not have anything to do with Christianity, but they are not necessarily sinful to participate in. It is on the shoulders of each of us to determine whether we will be crossing the line of biblical principle to enjoy such liberty. A true Christian is a believer and follower of Jesus Christ. This does not give us the authority to adopt worldly things or customs in the name of Christianity, which is the same as using Jesus Christ’s name, to legitimize the compromise. This has been done with music, movies, and at least one very popular holiday just to name a few. “Be ye separate from the world” is to keep the things of Christ separate from the things of the world. When we mix water with dirt we get mud; when we mix Christ with the world we get compromise. Redefining or renaming the compromise takes advantage of a liberty we do not have the right to claim.
1 Corinthians 6:12 “All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.”
Titus 2:11, 12 “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;”
Living and modeling an uncompromised life
Is a Christian’s dutiful goal to reach for;
By keeping separate the worldly things:
Entertainment, traditions, holidays and more.
Resist legitimizing in the name of Jesus Christ,
To appease the emotion toward that which you adore.
Your liberties end at the threshold of His holy door.
© Copyright 2013 Kathy Beardsley
Just when you think things cannot get more bizarre! From My Good Friends at Herescope comes another well researched article excerpt of the first section from:
A New Old Syncretism
Who would have ever thought that the evangelical world would come to this? Dabbling in the occult and being entertained by images and idols? The very sins that the ancient Hebrews were severely charged by God to avoid, are now rushing into the church at breakneck speed. As in the days of the Old Testament, the creeping gradualism of accommodating small concessions to idolatrous practices (New Age meditation, Yoga, e.g.) and has grown and expanded to now welcome the wholesale introduction of an ancient pantheon of gods and goddesses from every heathen culture.
These old idols, to which the ancient Roman world had dedicated so many temples, are now being revivified by their reintroduction in our modern era. This has come into the culture via New Age astrology and science fiction. These spectacular stories have been widely promulgated through comic books and entertainment media for many decades. But now they are coming into the church in the guise of an elaborately constructed end-time eschatology. This eschatology claims to be superior to the old models because it is based on gleanings from so-called sacred knowledge found in pagan myths and ancient writings.
This reinvigorated ancient mythological idolatry is being marketed to the evangelical world as a new and exciting eschatology by a group we have called the Postmodern Prophecy Paradigm (PPP) teachers. Endemic to their fabricated eschatology is the staunchly forbidden and unwise practice of seeking illumination outside of Holy Scripture. These teachers are now attempting to merge pagan mythology with the Bible. They have not only sought counsel from pagan and occult sources, but have also turned faulty proof-texting into a refined art, creating an erratic, erotic and exotic mixture of blended spiritualities.
Across our culture, and now in the church, mythology is being dished up on a new platter of high-tech imagery. The old lifeless wooden and stone statues (images/idols) are being re-cast into a new mold. Can these “gods” talk? The surprising answer is “yes” – thanks to Hollywood acting, film photography and digitalized imagery. It makes these images/idols more “potent,” especially in the imagination. This quality doesn’t make them “real.” Yet some prophecy teachers are claiming they are real. And it is this very claim, that they are real, that classifies them as pagan deities.
As you read the following account of how evangelicals are now adopting ancient pagan mythology and attempting to incorporate it into biblical eschatology, consider the following sober Scriptural warning about staying away from these mythological gods and their images:
“Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them,after that they be destroyed from before thee;
and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying,
‘How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.’
Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God:
for every abomination to the LORD, which He hateth,
have they done unto their gods;
for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.”(Deut. 12:30-31)
For the rest of the article click here: The Rise of End-Time Occultism, Part 7
Excerpt from:Soul-Saving Our One Business
Paul does not even say that he tried to moralize men. The best promoter of morality is the gospel. When a man is saved, he becomes moral; he becomes more, he becomes holy. But to aim first at morality is altogether to miss the mark; and if we did attain it,—as we shall not,—yet we should not have attained that for which we were sent into the world. Dr. Chalmers’ experience is a very valuable one to those who think that the Christian ministry ought to preach up mere morality, for he says that in his first parish he preached morality, and saw no good whatever arising out of his exhortations. But, as soon as he began to preach Christ crucified, then there was a buzz, and a stir, and much opposition, but grace prevailed. He who wishes for perfumes must grow the flowers; he who desires to promote morality must have men saved. He who wants motion in a corpse should first seek life for it, and he who desires to see a rightly ordered life should first desire an inward renewal by the Holy Spirit. We are not to be satisfied when we have taught men their duties towards their neighbours, or even their duties towards God; this would suffice for Moses, but not for Christ. The law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. We teach men what they ought to be, but we do far more; by the power of the gospel, applied by the Holy Ghost, we make them what they ought to be by the power of God’s Spirit. We put not before the blind the things that they ought to see, but we open their eyes in the name of Jesus. We tell not the captive how free he ought to be, but we open the door, and take away his fetters. We are not content to tell men what they must be, but we show them how this character can be obtained, and how Jesus Christ freely presents all that is essential to eternal life to all those who come and put their trust in Him.
Now observe, brethren, if I, or you, or any of us, or all of us, shall have spent our lives merely in amusing men, or educating men, or moralizing men, when we shall come to give in our account at the last great day, we shall be in a very sorry condition, and we shall have but a very sorry record to render; for of what avail will it be to a man to be educated when he comes to be damned? Of what service will it be to him to have been amused when the trumpet sounds, and heaven and earth are shaking, and the pit opens wide her jaws of fire, and swallows up the soul unsaved? Of what avail even to have moralized a man if still he is on the left hand of the Judge, and if still, “Depart, ye cursed,” shall be his portion? Blood-red with the murder of men’s souls will be the skirts of professing Christians, unless the drift, and end, and aim of all their work has been to “save some.” Oh! I beseech you, especially you, dear friends, who are working in Sunday and Ragged Schools, and elsewhere, do not think that you have done anything unless the children’s souls are saved. Settle it that this is the top and bottom of the business, and throw your whole strength, in the name of Christ, and by the power of the Eternal Spirit, into this object—if by any means you may save some, and bring some to Jesus that they may be delivered from the wrath to come. [Click here for rest of Sermon]
Charles Haddon Spurgeon